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If fitted for shield boosting + autocannons, which do you think is a better choice for mission running?

Machariel
10 (26.3%)
Vargur
21 (55.3%)
Screw BS's, use a Loki
6 (15.8%)
Neither (comment)
1 (2.6%)

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Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« on: April 21, 2010, 09:49:57 pm »
Ok, Im thinking of getting a mission ship to better fund myself, and the two that I like the most are the Vargur and Machariel, mainly due to them both being good mission runner ships with autocannons.  I love autocannons and the way each ship looks, and they both cost around 700m for the hull, so I would like you to help me decide for the near future and read any advice you have between them.
TBH the fit isn't that bad, if you just changed everything in all the lows, middle and highs it could be pretty decent.

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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 10:12:45 pm »
no contest, the Vargurs 40km tractors FTW

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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 10:24:48 pm »
vargur, yeah


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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 02:07:28 am »
Mach > Varg
More dps, range and speed.
Able to fit a armor or shield tank.
But, man those tractor beams are awesome for carebearing.
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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 10:11:32 am »
Mach > Varg
More dps, range and speed.
Able to fit a armor or shield tank.
But, man those tractor beams are awesome for carebearing.

this thread is specifically about CAREBEARING if you bothered to read.
The Vargur is the supreme hi-sec minny mission ship. That's what it was designed to do.
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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2010, 10:18:21 am »
Mach does a tad more DPS and flies faster while Vargur uses tractors+ salvages and is not far behind in terms of DPS. So I would say Vargur.

A fitting advice: Use a combination of 3 gyros + 2 tracking enhancers in the lows and a Large Burst Aerator II + Large Ambit extension I in the rigslots. The burst aerator gives you more DPS than a 4 th gyro and a tracking enhancer in the low gives you more falloff and tracking, thus adds DPS as well.

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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 11:10:34 am »
Mach > Varg
More dps, range and speed.
Able to fit a armor or shield tank.
But, man those tractor beams are awesome for carebearing.
this thread is specifically about CAREBEARING if you bothered to read.
The Vargur is the supreme hi-sec minny mission ship. That's what it was designed to do.
I did read.  I know exactly what carebearing is all about.
Having said that Mach IS > Varg.  More speed and range kills the rats faster for salvage monkey/alt. to do thier job.
But, man those tractor beams sure are kool.
I just don't like marauders as a whole.  They fail in many ways.
For that much skilling they really SHOULD have more of damage bonus instead of tractor beam bonus.  5% per marauder lvl would be good.
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Re: Mach vs. Vargur - PVE
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2010, 02:11:08 am »
marauders are good jump off point if your training for dreads, since its nearly a couple of books away from each other.

if we are talking about isk efficiency then the tractors are worth slightly more than the higher dps. The mach can definitely blitz through missions faster but loot-balling for your salvage alt saves on overall time. so the isk/hr leans toward the marauder(s).